Template talk:Infobox airport

The meaning of grass

There are about 300 articles where the runway surface has been specified as "grass". The trouble is, grass is a redirect to the plant family Poaceae, and that's clearly not the intended meaning here. The closest things that I can see are turf/sod and lawn. Which one is the better target article? – Uanfala (talk) 22:03, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

The better solution is to unlink grass, asphalt, and concrete used in airport articles per MOS:OL. MB 23:16, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

That's an option as well. And another one is to go the MOS:SPECIFICLINK route and pipe via something like Grass runway, which can be created as a redirect to Runway#Pavement surface (though the only grass-related content there at the moment is a brief mention with an example pictured). – Uanfala (talk) 00:44, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

Sure, in prose. But in the airport info box, the usage is Runway: and saying Runway: Grass runway is awkward/wordy and just piping grass is an Easter egg link... MB 02:29, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

There's a similar thread at Template talk:Infobox venue#Grass as a surface in sports venues. – Uanfala (talk) 13:46, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

There are also a lot of runway-related links of the form [[grass|turf]], mostly within article prose (almost 460 of them [1]). Whatever we decide about linking in the infobox field will probably apply to most of these as well. – Uanfala (talk) 13:06, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

• Unlink whatever the runway type is in the infobox. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 16:06, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

A link to a general article on grass is not in any way helpful. It's a common English word, everyone knows what grass is. That being said, a link to an article on grass runways, how they're maintained and what's different than just a field, I'd support a link to. But just to grass or anything that's not specifically talking about runways? Nope. Canterbury Tail talk 14:57, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Such a specific article doesn't exist (yet?), though there's the redirect Grass airstrip (which I created recently), which points to an article section with a brief mention of grass runways. – Uanfala (talk) 15:45, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Base param

Base is listed as a param in the doc, but it doesn’t work. This would be a good param to have for airlines like JetBlue and Southwest that don’t have hubs but do have operating bases. RickyCourtney (talk) 21:14, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

That parameter documentation was added in error. I can't find a record of this parameter ever existing in the template. Do you have a source describing the "base" for a few airlines? How many articles would use this parameter? – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:14, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

@Jonesey95 A good example would be Form 10-K for JetBlue which lists its bases on page 24, or the Form 10-K for Allegiant, which lists its bases on page 29. This information can also be matched up to the similar paramter in Template:Infobox airline. -- RickyCourtney (talk) 00:58, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 10 April 2023

It would be a good to have a param to have for airlines like JetBlue and Southwest that don’t have hubs but do have operating bases. A good example would be Form 10-K for JetBlue which lists its bases on page 24, or the Form 10-K for Allegiant, which lists its bases on page 29. This information can also be matched up to the similar paramter in Template:Infobox airline.

Please add:

| labelXX = Operating base for

| dataXX = {{{operating_base|}}}

Diff in sandbox: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Infobox_airport/sandbox&oldid=1149208086

Example in use, in draftspace: Draft:Oakland International Airport

Thank you for your consideration. -- RickyCourtney (talk) 20:11, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

 Not done for now: Have you discussed with the relevant WikiProject(s)? Izno (talk) 18:01, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion. Adding a discussion topic for comment on the WikiProject Airports talk page. -- RickyCourtney (talk) 21:13, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Editors on the WikiProject Airports talk page were generally supportive of the change. -- RickyCourtney (talk) 22:17, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

@RickyCourtney Could you make the proposed changes to Template:Infobox airport/sandbox? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:28, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Does this one I did earlier work?

Diff in sandbox: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Infobox_airport/sandbox&oldid=1149208086

Example in use, in draftspace: Draft:Oakland International Airport

-- RickyCourtney (talk) 15:49, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

 Done Izno (talk) 20:30, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

Just a question. How do we decide whether to refer to it as a focus city or an operating base? For example, JetBlue refers to them as focus cities in its 2021 Form 10-K. Also, for the airline's description of New York as one of its focus cities, it includes all New York–area airports, not just JFK. (Does JetBlue have a separate crew/maintenance base at Newark?) What determines whether we leave it as a focus city or call it an operating base for that airline? --Precision123 (talk) 17:54, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

Best to keep this discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airports#Adding "Operating base for" to Template:Infobox airport. CambridgeBayWeather (solidly non-human), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 16:38, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 12 August 2023

Following the recent addition to the infobox, please add operating_base to the check for unsupported params module call in the final line of the template. Implemented in the sandbox and will remove correctly-functioning instances of the template from Category:Pages using infobox airport with unknown parameters. Pinging @Izno: Wham2001 (talk) 12:49, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

 Completed. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 14:57, 12 August 2023 (UTC)